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  The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

  by truthseeker in

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  having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

  and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

  many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

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  My mom is 79 and she is resigned that she would see the end. I was the youngest grandchild, so many of my cousins are between age 50 and 60 and they thought that the end will be in their prime years. Their mom, my JW aunt is dead for 15 years, and they still maintain her bedroom and all her clothing because she will be resurrected shortly. Two of my cousins are elders and they think the big "A" is just behind the corner. They told my mom last month that she is wasting her time to go for hip surgery in the fall, because it is 101 years since Jesus rule and reminder her that while she is on surgery and recovery, she would miss a chance to jump into the arc and survive Armageddon in THIS year

  This is very much like my story and thousands of others. We were made to believe in the 60's and early 70's that we would not die in this system but we would all walk hand in hand as a family, into that new system. My parents both passed away in the last few years. They were both in their nineties. I got the feeling that talking to them they resigned themselves to the fact that they would die in this "system". So sad that they were robbed of a potential full life only to follow a dream. They were content and came to the reality that they would die. I am sure it did affect their faith in a belief system that mislead them but were in denial. They were happy and content to attend the meetings and associate with their JW friends and relatives. I say whatever made them happy in their finale years was what was most important.
  
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  Has anyone asked older Jdubs how they feel about the GB annointed getting younger?

  by sherrie11 in

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  i was married to a 30 year old jw back in the 90's and he claimed to be of the annointed.

  he partook at the memorials and all the elders and older jdubs didnt believe him.

  they actually gave him a really hard time.

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  It wasn't that long ago that there was no GB under 80 as they were all part of the 1914 generation. I am sure if Freddy was still around he would not have appointed these youngsters.
  
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  2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?

  by suavojr in

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  are you on the road to everlasting life?.

  note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..

  emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.

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  After 50 years the script never changes.
  
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  R.I.P. Wrangler Jane - Melody patterson

  by smiddy in

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  actor melody patterson best known for her role as wrangler jane on the 1960`s t.v.comedy western f troop , has died at age 66 .. she hid her age from producers , being only 16 when she got the part.. her other tv credits included the monkees , green acres , and hawaii five o .

  her husband was danno from that show from 1970--75. i loved that show f troop .

  melody ( wrangler ) patterson.

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  So sad to hear this news. I was taught that she would have been a little older than 66 as wasn't very old when F Troop was on TV. That was one of my favorite shows growing up. I have watched the show in re-runs now and it just isn't as good as I remembered it. I guess age changes our taste in entertainment.
  
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  How many here believed, down deep in your heart that the end would come in 1975?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
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  i was straddling the fence on that one, just in case they were right.

  i don't recall.

  telling anyone this is your last chance.

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  fulltimestudent: That's new to me ,Nathan tells the crowd "Freddy is full of sh--t.

  There is not enough time left in 1975 for all the thing that FF says must happen before

  Armageddon."

  My understanding is that the 1975 thing was Freddy Franz idea. Makes me wonder if Knorr was ever 100% on board with the idea. I believe they knew fully what they were doing and like someone said Freddy was a great snake oil salesman. Build up the hype to bring in the members and $$$$. Freddy lived to almost 100 and what a waste of a life as most of what he taught is or soon will be "old truth" and forgotten.
  
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  The local hall just got fleeced for $15,000!

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  2. experiences

  the local hall recently sold some property to the state for a road improvement project that is sorely needed.

  they received about $20,000.

  guess what?

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  I was never an elder myself but I would like to know from former elders on here if the borg puts the bug into the elders ear or out and out tell them that any extra money has to go to the mother organization. The reason why they vote on it is to make it look like it was a democratic decision.
  
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  The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

  and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

  many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

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  The last time my ex-brother-law elder visit me, he looked beaten.

  He's 78 and failing health, we were very close. So he ask what are you doing

  with the knowledge that you have gain from the Bible, I can see you are know

  your bible.Why not come back. It's been 28 years since I left and no way will I return,

  life have been good for me. I told him I have learned to play the guitar, golf, met some

  fine folks in the mean time, a great life. His response, I always wanted to learn to play the guitar.

  His goal in the borg was to become CO or DO, to bad because he was removed as a elder

  twice for abusing his wife (my sister). He would have made a great GB member...

  This sounds so very much like my ex brother in law. Even though he is still sticking by the organization waiting for Armageddon to come.
  
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  The elders of the 1980s are now in their 60s and 70s

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just come back from the uk and spoke with some witnesses to find out how my old congregation is doing, i realized i am now the age that my elders were when i was a kid.

  and i wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

  many of the elders in my old hall are now retired.

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  I wonder what the elders who are now in their 60s and 70s are thinking when they look in the mirror and an old face looks back at them.

  If they have not come to the reality that they will grow old and die in this system, is a real cultural shock.
  
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  Has the Great Witness Trolley/Cart campaign produced ANY results?

  by freddo in

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  i live between two cities that are big enough to have their own metropolitan trolley cart arrangements organised at circuit level.

  the 3 congregations at the hall i attend have trolley schedule noticeboards.

  i see trolleys in the high streets and markets locally.

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  I can't comment on your point but I would like to relay what I seen today on my facebook page. I am wondering if anyone else seen this picture. My ex posted a sick picture of a JW sister in the Philippians that is in a wheel chair and has no arms or legs with the caption, "What challenges have YOU overcome to regular pioneer? This regular pioneer named Cynthia from the Philippines is an encouraging example to all! ‪" I guess they are now trying to use the feeling sorry for me campaign to get converts.
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  How many here believed, down deep in your heart that the end would come in 1975?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was straddling the fence on that one, just in case they were right.

  i don't recall.

  telling anyone this is your last chance.

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  I was quite young in the late 60's early 70's, so a very much impressible mind. I think looking back I might have been 80% convinced but as the date 1975 approached I started to have some doubts. What if this was all a big hype and mistake? I recall in the early 70's studying with this brother that every study he would lead off with, the time is so short, you have to get baptized. Then he would point his bony finger at me and say, "when are you going to get baptized?" I eventually got baptized, not because I knew what I was doing but felt pressured into it and that is what all my witness friends at the time were doing. I recall in about 1973 my ex brother in law saying to me, "this system can't go one, I don't think we will even see end of 1974 in this system." Well when 1975 came and went and nothing happened and no acknowledgement from the WT, that was the beginning of the end for me. It took me another 10 to 20 years to do the slow fade.